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No black spot sign
Reported via desktop in the Sign issue (NH) category anonymously at 12:48, Wed 28 June 2023
Sent to National Highways less than a minute later. FixMyStreet ref: 4726818.
The B3251 onto A38 Menheniot junction has numerous reported crashes and still no black spot sign has been implemented. I was recently involved in crash here and was expecting to find that the junction is a black spot after being told by numerous people and the attending constable that this specific crossing should be a black spot
Updates
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Thank you for contacting National Highways concerning the A38 junction with the B3251.
We’ll look into this issue and aim to provide a response by 12/07/23.
Can we please ask that you check back on this date for an update.
Kind regards
National Highways
Posted by National Highways at 08:01, Fri 30 June 2023
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Safety is of primary importance to National Highways and something we monitor constantly on the Strategic Road Network. We are aware of collisions in this location and have prioritised a study to address these issues. We have developed a business case for funding and been awarded funds to undertake a safety study which is situated between Terulefoot Roundabout and the Island Shop junction in Liskeard. We are also looking at renewing the existing Vehicle activated sign you see on approach to the junction. Unfortunately, we are not able to use signs such as the black spot sign on the highway network as they are not proscribed in the traffic signs manual. If we wanted to implement the black spot sign there would need to be a legislative change. Further guidance on this can be found in the manual however below is an extract of that - TSM 1, para 3.4.1 reminding authorities that “3.3.1. The use of non-prescribed signs on public highways without authorisation by the national authority might be deemed unlawful, with authorities using them acting beyond their powers. The erection of an unauthorised sign in the highway is an obstruction and the possible consequences of erecting or permitting the erection of obstructions can be severe. Those responsible could lay themselves open to a claim for damages, for example if an obstruction is the cause of an accident or an injury in a collision, or if it adversely affects a property adjacent to the road by blocking light or impairing visual amenity. Furthermore, the use of unlawful traffic signs might compromise enforcement of statutory provisions and be detrimental to road safety” “3.4.1. Traffic signs in use on the highway must either be prescribed by TSRGD as amended, or be specially authorised by the national authority. Signs that are neither prescribed nor authorised are obstructions on the highway and must be removed.” The afore mentioned study will take time to finalises and requires funding for construction however we recognise the importance of the need for safety enhancements in this location.
If you require any further information please contact our Customer Contact Centre on 0300 123 5000 or info@nationalhighways.co.uk.
Kind regards
National Highways
State changed to: Closed
Posted by National Highways at 13:08, Mon 10 July 2023
This report is now closed to updates from the public. You can make a new report in the same location.